Pre Searing Pets? - Guild Wars Forums

I D E V I A N C E I · Mar 21, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

just a real quick question. Ive read literally the entire thread on presearing lvling, and although im not intending on creating a high lvl pre searing character, i do wish to take advantage of some of the aspects of pre searing lvling. My main concern is that of pets, if i take the time and effort to get a half decent pet, am i going to lose this as soon as i leave pre searing?

Im only asking this because ive played the game for roughly 2 and a half hours, so be nice.

JR · Mar 21, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

No, it stays with you

Pet's only dissapear when you talk to certain NPC characters that deal with them. They will seem to dissapear if you take Charm Animal off your skill bar, but as soon as you put it back on you get your pet back.

Olfin Bedwere · Mar 21, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

It`s been a while since I played a Ranger through to Post and that was just for dyes, I deleted him after but if I remember right you keep your pet.

I D E V I A N C E I · Mar 21, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

good i had hoped so. wolf or bear? wolves are clearly hot stuff.

Olfin Bedwere · Mar 21, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

I always go with the pig. If I had to choose between Wolf or Bear (assuming you can still charm a bear and have some help and it ain`t easy) I`d go Wolf, Bears are too slow.

I D E V I A N C E I · Mar 21, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

ladies love the wolves. i got monks for taming bears, but yeah, slow......
killer pig? now thats messed up.

Former Ruling · Mar 21, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I am amazed at the variety of pets they let you have in pre. I gues this is because they dont want you to feel you have to swith in post.

So you get to charm almost every pet in pre, except some area specific stuff like Dune Lizard and the UW spider.

boxterduke · Mar 21, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

Also keep in mind that if your secondary is ranger and have a pet and then later on change to a different profession, once you go back to ranger you will still have your pet.

wsmcasey · Mar 21, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I don't remember seeing any wolves in pre-searing, but I might be wrong. The bears in pre-searing cannot be charmed unless you have a partner that takes the aggro while your charming because of the interupts.

Silent Kitty · Mar 21, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by wsmcasey

I don't remember seeing any wolves in pre-searing, but I might be wrong. .

Don't worry, the wolf will find you. They are on the field with all the worms. Close to the town with all the monks. Sorry, I forgot the name.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Mar 21, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...

and bears have interupts? I doubt it

unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...

Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...

Silent Kitty · Mar 21, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...

and bears have interupts? I doubt it

unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...

Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...

Lol, you must have been away for a long time. Both bears and wolfs can be charmed in post-sear. Red dot, or no red dot. My ranger still has the wolf from post-sear.

Jenosavel · Mar 21, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...

and bears have interupts? I doubt it

unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...

Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...

Of course, because the printed manuals are always correct in a dynamic online game.

You can charm the level 2 wolves and the level 5 bears. The bears are a royal pain in the rear to charm because of their skill Charm Break, but it is possible. It involves the painfully precise timing of a team of 2 so that the bear is out of range to break your charm while you're charming it (however, 'out of range' means it'll be out of range for your charm too, hence the painful timing of the thing).

In the Pet Guide thread, Epinephrine has screens of the one he got when testing the above method. Somewhere in the thread the method is described more precisely, I believe. It works but really isn't worth the trouble, since the bear is the worst pet available.

wsmcasey · Mar 21, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...

and bears have interupts? I doubt it

unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...

Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...

Yes, the bears in Pre-searing interupt your action when trying to charm. And since charm animal is a long cast it gives the bear a huge window to interupt your action. It cannot be done solo unless you find a way to aggro the bear from behind a wall or from on top of a cliff where it cant get to you.

Big_Iron · Mar 21, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...

and bears have interupts? I doubt it

unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...

Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...

Sorry, but you're mistaken. I charmed my wolf in Pre and still have it. I've charmed several wolves with different chars actually. They're outside Ashford Abby.

EiS · Mar 21, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34

what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable

Goats17 · Mar 21, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by Olfin Bedwere

I always go with the pig. If I had to choose between Wolf or Bear (assuming you can still charm a bear and have some help and it ain`t easy) I`d go Wolf, Bears are too slow.

Not true, there is a pet guide somewhere on this site thats peoves that bears actually attack faster than all the other pets. Anet balanced this out by giving them the Brutal Mauling skill, adds no damage, but slows their attack.

Jenosavel · Mar 22, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Goats17

Not true, there is a pet guide somewhere on this site thats peoves that bears actually attack faster than all the other pets. Anet balanced this out by giving them the Brutal Mauling skill, adds no damage, but slows their attack.

AHAHAHAHA HOHOHOHO EHEHEHEHEEE!

...wait... what? You weren't joking? ...oh. Sorry.

I assume that you're refering to this pet guide? Yeah... after rigorous testing it shows that the bear attacks slower than all other pets by a pretty wide margin (approximately 22%), even though it does the same damage per attack. Brutal Mauling slows down the attack rate from what would be a normal attack rate leaving the bear pretty pathetic. Rumor has it that at some time before the release of the game, Brutal Mauling caused knock-down and therefore was balanced with the slower attack rate. After the removal of the knock-down effect, the attack itself was left. The result is one sad, sad bear.

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Originally Posted by EiS

what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable

Unfortunately, the rule works in reverse. While some animals are charmable even though they're red dots, others aren't charmable even though they're green. The moss spiders and rabbits are not charmable despite the fact that it would seem they should be. You can only get a spider in the UW.

VitisVinifera · Mar 22, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

I'll just throw this one thing in argument in favor of charming a bear:

they are great body blockers. If you deal in areas where there are choke points, a bear can take up a lot of space making it harder for enemiest to break through to you.

People who have farmed Tombs know this.

EF2NYD · Mar 22, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33

They all take up the same space so it doesn't really matter.

Mar 21, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48	#1
I D E V I A N C E I Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: R/N	Pre Searing Pets? just a real quick question. Ive read literally the entire thread on presearing lvling, and although im not intending on creating a high lvl pre searing character, i do wish to take advantage of some of the aspects of pre searing lvling. My main concern is that of pets, if i take the time and effort to get a half decent pet, am i going to lose this as soon as i leave pre searing? Im only asking this because ive played the game for roughly 2 and a half hours, so be nice.

Mar 21, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47	#11
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed... and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... Last edited by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E; Mar 21, 2006 at 03:50 PM // 15:50..

Mar 21, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#2
JR Re:tired Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/	No, it stays with you Pet's only dissapear when you talk to certain NPC characters that deal with them. They will seem to dissapear if you take Charm Animal off your skill bar, but as soon as you put it back on you get your pet back.

Mar 21, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56	#3
Olfin Bedwere Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma Profession: W/Mo	It`s been a while since I played a Ranger through to Post and that was just for dyes, I deleted him after but if I remember right you keep your pet.

Mar 21, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#4
I D E V I A N C E I Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: R/N	good i had hoped so. wolf or bear? wolves are clearly hot stuff.

Mar 21, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22	#5
Olfin Bedwere Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma Profession: W/Mo	I always go with the pig. If I had to choose between Wolf or Bear (assuming you can still charm a bear and have some help and it ain`t easy) I`d go Wolf, Bears are too slow.

Mar 21, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24	#6
I D E V I A N C E I Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: R/N	ladies love the wolves. i got monks for taming bears, but yeah, slow...... killer pig? now thats messed up.

Mar 21, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#7
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	I am amazed at the variety of pets they let you have in pre. I gues this is because they dont want you to feel you have to swith in post. So you get to charm almost every pet in pre, except some area specific stuff like Dune Lizard and the UW spider.

Mar 21, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46	#8
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	Also keep in mind that if your secondary is ranger and have a pet and then later on change to a different profession, once you go back to ranger you will still have your pet.

Mar 21, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#9
wsmcasey Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Right behind you. Guild: HeRo Profession: W/Rt	I don't remember seeing any wolves in pre-searing, but I might be wrong. The bears in pre-searing cannot be charmed unless you have a partner that takes the aggro while your charming because of the interupts.

Mar 21, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#16
EiS Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Save The Dragons Profession: R/Mo	what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable

Mar 22, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#19
VitisVinifera Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern California Guild: HoTR Profession: N/Me	I'll just throw this one thing in argument in favor of charming a bear: they are great body blockers. If you deal in areas where there are choke points, a bear can take up a lot of space making it harder for enemiest to break through to you. People who have farmed Tombs know this.

Mar 22, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33	#20
EF2NYD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	They all take up the same space so it doesn't really matter.